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extension-bolt: simple taproot channels (feature 80/81) - #995
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Some things that came up in meatspace discussions:
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I think the commit_sig should contain the sender's "remote nonce" and the revoke_and_ack contain the sender's "local nonce". Also since funding_locked will be sent repeatedly with scid-alias when that is merged and deployed, then there should probably be language to define that the nonces are only sent the first time? |
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let's try to pick naming conventions for nonces that doesn't make me cry over the asymmetry |
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Some points: This interacts with the 2-of-3 goal of @moneyball . If one participant uses a 2-of-3 and owns ALL 3 keys, then it is fine and we can just have MuSig2 with both channel endpoints. But the 2-of-3 goal is that one channel endpoint is really a nodelet-like setup: there is one sub-participant with 2 keys and another "server" participant with 1 key, a la GreenWallet. This requires composable MuSig2. Now I think composable MuSig2, if it can be proven safe, just requires two -- This interacts with VLS as well @ksedgwic . The nonce A similar technique may also be useful for the server in the 2-of-3 of @moneyball; rather than maintain a state for each channel of each client, the client could store the per-channel |
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So I talked to @jonasnick, and as I understand it, we can work with just two |
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Re recursive musig2: I'm gonna give the implementation a shot (outside the LN context, just the musig-within-musig) just to double check my assumptions re not needing to modify the (revised) nonce exchange flow. |
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i made a pull request on this pull request with script fixes |
Why not the revocation key? When i publish an old state, the remote party can claim my output and htlcs with the key path, but not his own output, and also has to wait a block. If we set the internal key to the revocation key it will give the remote party more privacy, nobody on chain can see which outputs were to local and to remote (and htlcs if they are swept along). It will also give more consistency with other output as they also have the revocation key as internal key. it will also be cheaper (or get a higher fee rate with the same amount of sats), this only requires a signature from a taptweaked revocation key (65) instead of a signature (65), the script (36) and the controlblock (34) (incl length prefix) |
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#995 (comment) makes it invisible for outside observers to identify the to_remote output in case of a revoked commitment. if there are some htlcs on it that are long expired and the second stage is broadcasted (like in the fee siphoning attack), the funds go to the local delayed pubkey + relative timelock. outside observers can now see which output was the to_local one, just search the output of an htlc 2nd stage tx in the commitment transaction. example ctx: 15c262aeaa0c5a44e9e5f25dd6ad51b4162ec4e23668d568dc2c6ad98ae31023 (testnet) the transaction with the expired htlc reveals the to_local output. (it is already revealed by the script, but this wouldnt be the case with a revoked taproot ctx) this can be fixed by tweaking the local delayed pubkey with the hash of EDIT: no secret is needed, instead a taptweak like tweak can be done. everywhere where a local delayed pubkey is used, it is tweaked with for clarity: htlc outputs that send funds to the local delayed pubkey use a tweaked local delayed pubkey where the output index of the htlc output on the commitment transaction is used, not the htlc success or timeout tx |
this would preserve privacy, but you'd also need to do this for the |
hmmm true, so it is either privacy, with no key reuse or no utxo set bloat. btw another idea about anchors and less utxo set bloat: |
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if this is a problem B can tweak the key before using it without A even knowing (also A has to do this because the lexicographically smaller key is tweaked), but i dont think it is, lnd uses a separate bip32 tree for this (separate from the wallet) (btw without taproot funding pubkeys were revealed every time a channel was closed) |
afaict the algorithm in this bip is generalized for 32 byte pubkeys and more than 2 signers, the 'simple' musig2 with the pubkey's with the parity bit known looks like this equation i used, btw i got it here https://github.com/t-bast/lightning-docs/blob/master/schnorr.md#musig2 |
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Some old comments I forgot to submit
Most recent comment is noting that partial sigs are 32 bytes, so this needs explicit defining somewhere, since signature types seem to assume 64(may have missed it).
nvm this wouldn't work because keys are only revealed when swept without signature to make this problem somewhat easier i suggest to remove the now that the this special case can of course be seen from both sides:
even more rare: revocation no anchor keys are revealed here because with the revocation key the taproot key path is used. i don't know to make anchor sweepable in this case long story short:
Questions/feedback welcome! |
Good catch, I missed that one! We're always using the first version in <local_delayedpubkey> OP_CHECKSIGVERIFY So it's likely indeed just an issue in the spec, not in the implementations. I think you forgot to push your fix @Roasbeef? |
Indeed! Just pushed. |
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I'm getting a match on commitment transactions with a3ea39c, but I'm unable to generate the same HTLC signatures. Can you share how you're generating those signatures? I'm using deterministic schnorr sigs in eclair (not providing any auxrand data to secp256k1), are you by any chance using randomized signatures in lnd, which would make those test vectors non deterministic?
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@t-bast yeah so lnd uses a version of RFC 6979 for nonce generation. I'll modify the test vectors to use the BIP 340 EDIT: pushed up! |
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ACK 13b2110, the test vectors match what eclair generates in ACINQ/eclair#3144 🎉
I think this is ready to go 🚀
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lnd branch for interop: lightningnetwork/lnd#9985 |
All basic functional interop tests pass between lightningnetwork/lnd#9985 at lightningnetwork/lnd@db32cbb and ACINQ/eclair#3144 at ACINQ/eclair@535ea49:
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Nice! We should be good to go to merge this PR once the commits are squashed then! |
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@Roasbeef now that lightningnetwork/lnd#9985 has been merged, can you squash and merge this PR? |
In this extension BOLT, we specify the initial flavor of taproot channels to be deployed. This channel type uses musig2 aggregated keys and signatures for the funding output, making it a normal single signature key path spend. All outputs are then updated to use P2T2 (segwit v1) outputs. The coop close process has been simplified to always terminate, and the co-op close transaction now also flags RBF to make way for future schemes that enable the process to be restarted which enables co-op close fee bumping. A top-level key spend output is used to the revocation of HTLC outputs. The revocation for the local output uses a script path to ensure that information needed to sweep the anchors by 3rd parties is always revealed on chain.
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bolt-simple-taproot.md now says "Extension BOLT XX: Simple Taproot Channels". Wasn't this supposed to get a BOLT number assigned? |
Use the official feature bit and name for taproot channels and the corresponding channel types. Activate taproot channels support by default (without support for announcing such channels yet). See lightning/bolts#995
Bits 264/265 are already claimed by lightning#73 (option_path_queries), open since 2026-07-15 and mergeable. Only merged reservations show in bLIP 2 on master, so the next-free pair reads as 264/265 when it is not. Of the pairs above 263, 266/267 and 268/269 are the only ones no open PR claims; 270/271 goes to lightning#56. Simple taproot channels is no longer a proposal: lightning/bolts#995 merged on 2026-05-04 as bolt-simple-taproot.md. Refer to the extension BOLT and link it, and reflow the paragraph. Also fix a comma splice in Per-commitment points, and pad the bLIP 2 row to the table's columns.
Bits 264/265 are already claimed by lightning#73 (option_path_queries), open since 2026-07-15 and mergeable. Only merged reservations show in bLIP 2 on master, so the next-free pair reads as 264/265 when it is not. Of the pairs above 263, 266/267 and 268/269 are the only ones no open PR claims; 270/271 goes to lightning#56. Simple taproot channels is no longer a proposal: lightning/bolts#995 merged on 2026-05-04 as bolt-simple-taproot.md. Refer to the extension BOLT and link it, and reflow the paragraph. Also fix a comma splice in Per-commitment points, and pad the bLIP 2 row to the table's columns.
This PR puts forth two concepts:
The extensions described in this document have purposefully excluded any gossip related changes, as the there doesn't yet appear to be a predominant direction we'd all like to head in (nu nu gossip vs kick the can and add schnorr).
Most of the changes here described are pretty routine: use musig2 when relevant, and create simple tapscript trees to fold in areas where the script has multiple conditional paths. The main consideration with
musig2is ofc: how to handle nonces. This document takes a very conservative stance, and simply proposes that all nonces be 100% ephemeral, and forgotten, even after a connection has been dropped. This has some non-obvious implications w.r.t the retransmission flow. Beyond that, it's mostly: piggy back the nonce set of nonces (4 public nonces total, since there're "two" messages) on a message to avoid having to add additional round trips.The other "new" thing this adds is the generation/existence of a NUMs point, which is used to ensure that certain paths can only be spent via the script spend path (like the to remote output for the remote party, as this inherits anchor outputs semantics).
This is still marked as draft, as it's just barely to the point of being readable, and still has a lot of clean ups to be done w.r.t notation, clarify, wording, and full specification.