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Lightning Specification Meeting 2025/08/11 #1277

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@t-bast

The meeting will take place on Monday 2025/08/11 at 8pm UTC (5:30am Adelaide time) on Libera Chat IRC #lightning-dev. It is open to the public.

A video link is available for higher bandwidth communication: https://meet.jit.si/Lightning-Spec-Meeting

Recently Updated Proposals / Seeking Review

This section contains changes that have been opened or updated recently and need feedback from the meeting participants.

Stale Proposals

This section contains pending changes that may not need feedback from the meeting participants, unless someone explicitly asks for it during the meeting. These changes are usually waiting for implementation work to happen to drive more feedback.

Waiting for interop

This section contains changes that have been conceptually ACKed and are waiting for at least two implementations to fully interoperate.
They most likely don't need to be covered during the meeting, unless someone asks for updates.

Long Term Updates

This section contains long-term changes that need review, but require a substantial implementation effort.

Activity

  1. pinned this issue on Aug 7, 2025
  2. Roasbeef commented on Aug 11, 2025

    @Roasbeef
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    attributable errors:

    • looking good, just needs final test vector compat tests

    receiver side delays:

    • waiting for some implementation notes

    dual funding reconnection details:

    • needs to be interop'd between CLN and Eclair

    72 block spend graph removal

    • second commit added re MUST NOT send close channels
      • to be relaxed to SHOULD NOT, as some impls by default or config won't fully validate the spentness of channels

    splicing:

    • honing in on the retransmission of announcement signatures re splicing
      • would get rid of the "infinite loop"
      • basically a route to insert some information in channel_reest, that says if we have ann sig or not
        • in-band hard stop to know if ann sigs is sent or not

    taproot:

    • eclair and lnd doing more interop:
      • need to fix something re RBF taproot support?
      • decide on pessimistic weight estimates or not
      • clarify handling on the new nonce map

    bolt11 taproot fallback addrs:

    • waiting for second interop re addition of the test vectors
    • are ppl using fall back addrs generally?

    bolt12 test vector stuff:

    • interop done, just needs a final approval?

    channel jamming:

    • carla and co have finished implementing and specifying the latest n greatest
      • simulator has been updated, wanting to run more scenarios against it

    async payments:

    • LDK close to moving forward w/ the async send part

    trampoline:

    • new LDK contributor picking up some old PRs

    bolt12 contacts+recurrence:

    • big changes in PRs towards contacts, now ready to be reviewed

    v3 zero feee commitments:

    • LDK working in it, 2/3 of the way or so
    • eclair, waiting to finish the taproot work
  3. unpinned this issue on Aug 20, 2025
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